Ep 35 – The Startling Secrets of Sound | John Stuart Reid

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Natalie joins sound scientist and Cymatics researcher John Stuart Reid, inventor of the Cymascope, in his lab for some mind-blowing info that takes us from decoding dolphins and the Nazi 440 Hz versus 432 Hz conspiracy to the Da Vinci Code and sound healing! John, who was greatly inspired by the work of cymatics pioneer Hans Jenny, reveals how walking by the sea heals you, how we’re like astronauts, and how our thoughts influence our body. Hear John’s theory on the possible origins of hieroglyphics and whether he thinks the Egyptians were really high tech!

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Natalie shares more about her mysterious 2012 Near Death Experience during which she spoke scientific information, in particular how ‘sound can heal everything!’ They discuss the impact of nature on depression and whether immersing yourself in the earth’s Schumann Resonance is a quick fix for the blues!

If you have and interest in egyptology this will be a great listen as John reveals the life-changing experience involving sound healing in the King’s Chamber Sarcophagus! He also discusses the holographic nature of sound and shares an extraordinary story involving ghosts, a Welsh pub, and the men in black!

Natalie gets her nerd on with questions about Nikola Tesla and Vortex Math and John sheds light on sound’s role in organizing matter in the creation of our Universe. This is an information extravaganza so sit back, listen, and enjoy!


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Natalie Gray with John Stuart Reid sharing Secrets of Sound in the Cymascope cymatics Lab

Natalie with John in the Cymascope lab!

John Stuart Reid’s website: Cymascope.com

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John working with the Cymascope in his cymatics lab.

Watch this clip below of John demonstrating a Chladni Plate!

cymatics coaster created by dolphin sound

Coaster created by decoding a dolphin’s echo location using the Cymascope, the cymatics instrument invented by John!

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Cymatics | The Rosslyn Chapel Block Cube

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Thomas J. Mitchell (b 1938) is a Scottish musician who studied the ornately carved ceiling of Rosslyn Chapel for 27 years. Rosslyn Chapel, near Edinburgh, famous for its lavish carvings and its association with the Knights Templar, also contained a mystery in the form of four sections of arches containing cymatic-like designs carved into the faces of 213 rectilinear cubes.

Mitchell discovered that the patterns related to musical notes, and were meant to be read in a specific order. He postulated that the builders of the chapel had access to Chladni-style plate and bow technology and deliberately encoded the melody into the cubes.

His son, Stuart Mitchell, orchestrated the music thus revealed, and named it ‘The Rosslyn Motet.’16 It was first performed on traditional medieval musical instruments in the chapel in September 2006. Thomas and Stuart Mitchell’s  book ‘Rosslyn Chapel: The Music of the Cubes’ was also published in 2006.

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Check out this amazing video on sonic geometry!

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Natalie Gray is an artist and comedienne who had an extraordinary experience in 2012 that inspired her to research alternative topics and theories, including sound healing, quantum physics, and the idea that we are living in a Holographic Universe. For Natalie's art and comedy please visit http://nataliegray.com

9 Responses to “Ep 35 – The Startling Secrets of Sound | John Stuart Reid

  • David Tomsu
    7 years ago

    Hi Natalie
    I enjoyed your post with John, & I also relate to your bubbling jester approach that perhaps is more obvious to me since I’m also that way inclined, I’m a musician & artist & performer as well as working with healing modalities.
    I must commend you on being so inspired & focused in your research. I’ve studied sound & pitch for 2 decades & find most stuff online is misinformation.

    (Before I forget, I also work deeply with healing sound & am interested about the guy that you mention in this chat, the one working with the crystal bowls, since he seems to use scientific methods too.. Who is he? I would like to look him up, please)
    Few things to mention to you as briefly as possible for now, we can always get deeper into this if you should want.
    1. Time is not an actual vibration, there is no such thing as a “second” , it’s a human construct. Scientists have proven that time speeds up & slows down for people on earth (it doesn’t only vary relative to speed of light like for satellites) so basing 432 cosmic conclusion on time doesn’t cut it. I tune in the region of 432, but you hit the nail on the head when you said notes RELATIVE to each other is what is important, the gaps of natural harmonics…
    2. Solfeggio frequencies proposed online are a misconception, the numbers used are ARCHETYPAL numbers from Rodin’s work in vortex maths, have nothing to do with measurement & certainly not with “cycles per second”. They are groups. 3,6,9 & 1,4,7 & 2,5,8 & another mystery altogether. The shape you were referring to is called an enneagram.
    3. I’ve run out of time here & forget what else I wanted to share with you.

    Thank you for doing what you’re doing!
    Best blessings

    • David,

      thank you for this awesome and tremendously informative comment! Okay, first things first – the sound healing instructor is Tony Nec – here is the link to his interview: https://thegrayescape.com/podcast/ep-31-vibrations-of-tesla-tony-nec/ Next, yes the groups of numbers really fascinate me – in particular how all of those proposed solfeggio frequencies go in sequence when you add them up of 3,6,9(!) This really intrigues me (translation: does my head in!)
      Anyway, thank you again for taking the time to comment and wishing you much success with all of your own creative endeavors!

  • Es un gusto seguirte tú que estuviste en el laboratorio viendo cómo se hacen las botellas de equilibrium, aquí en México es difícil conseguir las botellas me gustaría ser distribuidora como le hago qué requisitos se necesito tu sabes

    • Voy a tratar de encontrar esta respuesta para usted :)

  • WOW! The strange gifts of quarantine. I’ve been exploring a bit about the interface of sound and trauma healing; and some of the ‘ordering’ of various vortices of energy in relationship with frequencies, and this dialogue is amazing. THANK you for being there, tho’ it sounds like you had a real phoenix ride of the ultimate extreme. It’s a wonder how we are all being expanded by hearing the accounts of those of us who have crossed the veil and come back to dispel the fear of life’s apparent conclusion. Wishing you a beautiful journey of wonder and love…

    • Thank you so much for the lovely comment, friend. I hope to get more episodes up soon. Hope you are staying well and I’m glad this time has brought some gifts – how wonderful of you to be open to them :)

  • Dear Natalie.
    Thank you for sharing your story and inspiring others. We have quite a bit in common actually. Please watch my tedx talk on Music is Medicine when you get a moment.

    I had a near death accident in April of 2012 from a helicopter crash. In 2013 i had a major revelation / epiphany that changed my life and helped me heal. I’ve been working for years on a documentary called Heart Beat. Our film about the healing power of music and sound at a cellular level. It would be great to connect with you and John Stuart Reid about all of this. I’ve already interviewed some of the top researchers of sound in the world and it would be nice to talk more about this with you.

    You can view my TEDx talk on Music is Medicine here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPWqYUdHJ1Y

    Here is the teaser to our film still in production. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPWqYUdHJ1Y&t=5s

    Heart Beat website is http://www.heartbeatdocumentary.com

    Blessings and positive vibes


    • How lovely to receive such an exciting message; that is uncanny indeed that you also had a life-changing experience from your NDE. I will definitely be checking out your links, thank you for sending! And yes, very open to connecting on this topic also. I’ll drop you an email now. Cheers Michael and thank you again for the great comment!

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